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hand I am sure I saw him put a bullet into the Gun he
had in his hand - I must be a stupid sort of fellow not
to know the differance between Ganger and Gardener the Prisoner
was behind us when they asked for Aust the Ganger and
must have heard it.
John Dallimore

John Matthews Sworn - I am a Gardener in the Service
of Mr. Prothero. I know James Aust the Prisoner - I have
known him since I came to Mr Prothero's employ which is
about 8 months ago I have in the last Summer when there
some disturbance here in Newport had a Conversation with
the Prisoner respecting the Chartists he was on his way
to Newport him and his Man - we were talking about the
Chartists I and he were talking about revolution, I said
that if we had a revolution in this Country the Russians
would come in and we should [] under the Russian Government
his answer to that was that he would rather be under the
Russian Government than under the present Government as it
were now I recollect that he has told me that he really believed
that he should lose his life in the Cause of the Chartists
I cant recollect the time he said so - early in the morning
of Monday last about 8 o'Clock I was about the house and
went to open the Conservatory I saw Mr. Aust and Mr.
Davies
the fitter up standing on the Road near Mr Prothero's
Lodge
. I had scarcely any conversation then I went then
to open the Conservatory and then I went to my breakfast
I then heard a terrible row in the Stable yard where I
live. I knew the Coachman was there and I got up from my
breakfast to ask what was the matter - stable yard adjoins
the Turnpike road - when I went out the Yard was nearly
full of people - they were about having my Masters Coachman
to go away, but I am not sure whether they had hold of
him or not - he offered them resistance and then they
got hold of me and told me that I must go along -
I resisted a little, but I saw it was no good - the party

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